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NATIONAL ACADEMY OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION
STANDING PANELS ON FEDERAL SYSTEM

MEETING OF JULY 28, 2004
DRAFT MINUTES

PANEL ATTENDEES: Paul Posner, Panel Chair, Enid Beaumont, David Garrison, Jim Freech, Bob Murray, Beryl Radin, Dan Skolar, Carl Stenberg (via phone), and Charles Wise (via phone)

STAFF ATTENDEES: Meredith Brebner, Morgan Kinghorn, Rich Keevey, Eric Landau, and Dawn Williams

WELCOME AND ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
Paul Posner welcomed everyone to the meeting of the Federal System Panel and said that minutes from the previous meeting are available.

ACADEMY UPDATE
Morgan Kinghorn updated the Panel on the state of the Big Ideas and the upcoming Fall Meeting.

Kinghorn explained that 3 of the 10 Big Ideas are ready for immediate funding and action (Fiscal Future, Intergovernmental, and Homeland Security). The Board felt that these three were more developed. These groups are working on a workplan including a budget. The Academy is working on compiling a summary of the Big Ideas into a brochure insert.

Kinghorn said that Frank Reeder and Kathy Newcomer have agreed to take the lead in the planning the Fall Meeting. The Fall Meeting will focus around the Big Ideas. Each Big Idea lead will be asked to develop an agenda. Standing Panels may be asked to incorporate an agenda with the Big Ideas. Kinghorn said that the Academy hopes to attract a series of speakers.

INTERGOVERNMENTAL BIG IDEA
Bob Murray, Intergovernmental Positioning Committee lead said that that there is a lot of overlap between the PC and the Standing Panel.

Dave Garrison suggested that the Panel and positioning committee combine into one.

Murray said that organizing around a real issue helps.Enid Beaumont said that the more we concentrate around an issue, the better off we will be.

Beryl Radin said that we can think about intergovernmental issues as a vertical or horizontal issue. It cuts across other Big Ideas and other Academy work.

Kinghorn said that the other Big Ideas could overlap with the Intergovernmental. He pointed out two problems.
1. Lumping everything together will lose focus.
2. Lumping everything together will make attracting funding more difficult.

Posner said that the view has been that the only way to get attention is to focus on a specific issue.

Murray said that the idea in the report was to create a center at the Academy and look at intergovernmental systems (statistical and analytical dimensions). Homeland Security, Healthcare, and Education could all be included. The Center would look at systems from a political and managerial viewpoint. The Academy is uniquely positioned. No one has the knowledge and breadth of experience in intergovernmental affairs that the Academy has. We should be able to "corner the market."

Murray said that the Positioning Committee spent time talking with people in local and state governments to get their viewpoints. While there was some skepticism about our ability to get funding, it was very positive.

Dan Skolar asked if the goal was to have a center or a consortium.

Murray said that a center will do more if we can get funding. A consortium is valuable in the sense that it could start earlier, requires less effort, requires less money, and would get the dialogue going. In the end the consortium could be part of the center.

Kinghorn said that the Board wants a center, but a consortium is a good way to get started.

Radin said that a consortium could be viewed as a planning process.

Stenberg said that a consortium will test the market.

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Kinghorn said that a consortium is relatively low risk.

Skolar said that Kinghorn could declare that there is a center and then establish a consortium.

Stenberg said that recently the Academy has done a few things to place us in the intergovernmental world.
" Government Executive Series - A recent article discusses that the Academy is going to move ahead with an Intergovernmental Center to examine intergovernmental systems.
" National League of Cities - Stenberg is going to Biloxi Mississippi to speak about where the Academy is headed.
" National Governor's Association - The Academy was recently contracted to write a white paper on Federal Preemption.

Wise said that there is possible intergovernmental work that could come out of NAPA's projects (i.e. Wildland Fire).

Beaumont cautioned the Panel on how different the Academy's research agenda is in relation to what the ACIRs were.

Bruce McDowell said that john Kincaid still does the ACIR opinion poll. The results of this poll could be released by the Academy.

Garrision said that we need to focus on building capacity.

Stenberg said that the Panel needs to decide how they should proceed in substance and process.

Rich Keevey updated the Panel on the Fiscal Future Big Idea as a comparison model. He explained that there are three tasks.
1. Analytical
2. Polling
3. Public Outreach

The Analytical task needs to be completed by December 30th. The outcome will be a book on the Fiscal Future. The intent is to involve people like Alice Rivlan and David Walker.

The Polling task involves polling people on their thoughts of the fiscal future.
- Are they aware of it?
- Do they know the dimensions?
The plan is to use a polling center.

The Public Outreach task will include 3 discussions around the country. The goal is to tie in with universities or think tanks.

Currently, the Positioning Committee is focusing on the analytical task.

Murray asked the Panel is the Fiscal Future matrix was one that they were comfortable applying to the Intergovernmental Big Idea.

Radin said that she was uncomfortable using the term objective analysis. She also said that she is looking for a sustained development of resources.

Posner asked what the group thought the next steps were.

Kinghorn said that the Academy need to find someone to help build on this.

Posner said that the next steps seem to be:
- People
- Outreach
- Funding Strategy
He suggested a framing paper to start the process.

Garrision said that would be a useful device.

Stenberg suggested creating an agenda for the next President on intergovernmental systems. The framing paper could provide both an agenda for the new center or consortium as well as transition guidance for a new or continuing Administration and Congress

Kinghorn asked for help in finding someone to build on this. He also asked what the compensation should be. He is looking for a visionary who knows the business, can speak the language, and can reach out to people in various sectors.

Stenberg said that in the short-term we need to bring someone in who knows the field.

Kinghorn said that he would like the members of the panel to help with possible candidate suggestions, develop a workplan for the Big Idea, and give some thought about how they would like to use the Fall Meeting to further develop the Big Idea.

Posner adjourned the meeting at 12 pm.



 

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