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Federal System Panel meeting at the 2002 Academy Spring Meeting

June 6, 2002, Meeting Highlights
Standing Panel on the Federal System
National Academy of Public Administration
2002 Spring Meeting in Charlottesville, Virginia

The panel discussed various issues related to Homeland Security, the economy and resulting pressures on the public budget, and shifting responsibilities between the federal government and localities. There was a sense that we need to renegotiate the unspoken contract between the federal, state, and local governments. NAPA can provide important leadership in this arena, whether in its traditional convening role or by identifying new approaches to move forward.

The participants agreed that the panel should focus on a variety of issues with a relationship to homeland security in the year ahead, meeting 7-8 times a year on a regular schedule. Panel meetings and participation from members outside of the DC area will be encouraged.

Among the topics suggested for future Federal System Panel meetings:

1. Racial Profiling (possible joint meeting with the Panel on Social Equity)
2. Potential Regional Approaches as well as Broad Collaboration of Public/Private/Nonprofit Sectors.
3. Fiscal Issues and their Impact on New Security Agenda (e.g., cuts in local programs, lack of insurance. Are we spending money on the most critical priorities?)
4. Bioterrorism: Interdependency of Public Health System (CDC has good resources; serious gaps among first responders and local managers)
5. Technology and Homeland Security Collaboration (Dave Muchini, Fairfax County CIO a good resource to tap)
6. Model of Management that Supports Collaboration (What does "good" or "bad" collaboration look like? What tools promote effective collaboration? Does the federal government have a culture that discourages or prevents collaboration? Assess and inventory what is happening now across levels of government.)
7. Transportation Security Agency
8. What Does Changing Role of FBI Mean to Local Communities (shifting roles, responsibilities, and priorities)?
9. Legal and Constitutional Questions (as raised by homeland security initiatives)
10. What Should Be Decentralized (i.e., carried out by local governments)? Centralized (handled by federal agencies)? What Should Be Connected?

Homeland Security Discussion
Costis Toregas talked about fragmented national standards for electronic governance, which creates problems for dealing effectively with homeland security. But he observed that for many local governments, security issues are an "inside the Beltway" discussion.

Bob Matson saw the issue somewhat differently. He said that even in Montana the local authorities have been paying attention to homeland security and they have concerns. For one thing, the high profile that the Administration and media have given to homeland security has raised public expectations. Many agencies (e.g., the CIA) are working to change their organizational culture, to begin to share more information with other security organizations. In those places where people have begun to work on improving first response mechanisms, they are waiting for the rest of the federal system to "get its act together."

One of the critical governance dimensions to the terrorist attacks has been the shift in thinking about emergency management, said Scott Fosler. It’s no longer enough to focus on prevention, response, recovery, and mitigation. Now detection of a problem has become a much more important concern. How will we detect a bioterrorism attack, for example?

In the State of Maryland, Pat Florestano said that the Board of Regents for the 13 higher education institutions is looking at security issues. She said there is a love/hate relationship about the interactions with local governments. Some of this comes from "NIMBY" protests. With 41 of the 50 states showing some fiscal stress, higher education is bracing for the worst as it is always the first to be cut.

Jonathan Howes said that after 9/11, the UNC campus became much more concerned about security issues, particularly at large events. The NC state budget crisis is the worst in years and is affecting many public institutions. The 1994 tax cut is hitting the state hard now, along with a number of natural disasters.

Deil Wright echoed Jonathan Howes’ observations about natural and fiscal disasters. With Hurricane Fran in 1996 and Hurricane Floyd in 1999, North Carolina has garnered a great deal of experience with intergovernmental cooperation in the face of a disaster. He said that the collaboration was impressive. The trust that has built up between the state and local governments is something to build on with the new threats of terrorism. City and county cooperation in the state is especially good. At the same time, the sharp downturn in the state’s economy poses the greatest challenge to sound intergovernmental decisions.

Several fellows noted that the impact of the federal tax cuts on the states was not given much attention when Congress passed its tax cut plan last year. They are being hit hard by the resulting decline in tax rates at the same time the economic downturn is reducing state tax revenues.

Most state economies are in trouble, observed Enid Beaumont. As states and localities have become global players in business, this globalization affects homeland security as well as state and local economies.

With defense contracts rolling into Connecticut, David Walker said that has helped to shore up the state’s shaky finances: a $100 million deficit most recently. He noted that the organization of response to 9/11 by Arlington County, Virginia, and the region as a whole was most impressive, and wondered why federal agencies are reluctant to trust local law enforcement. He also observed that in the present climate in Washington, responsibilities for law enforcement seem to be simultaneously centralizing and devolving. He expressed concern that some of the Attorney General’s actions had preempted the states.

Beryl Radin also was impressed with the presentation the Arlington County Assistant Fire Chief made to the EOM panel. In Arlington County, there are good standard operating procedures and trust between local, state, and federal authorities. She raised a concern about the federalization of the nation’s airports.

The changing role of the INS and the FBI may also be affecting local governments in a significant way. The INS has changed procedures and is now drafting local authorities to check green cards. Don Borut said that as the FBI is taking on additional terrorism work, local police departments are concerned that they will be left with responsibility for whatever the FBI makes less of a priority. For example, drug enforcement and white collar crimes may become more of a responsibility for localities.

Don Borut complimented the Academy for the timeliness of the focus on Homeland Security, with the announcement of the President’s proposal to create a new Department of Homeland Security scheduled for the same day as the meeting. There was much to discuss about functions of federal agencies and organizational culture. Borut said that OHS Director Tom Ridge has worked hard to reach out to state and local governments as he works on security issues. Director Ridge was concerned with the new Transportation Security Agency’s lack of coordination with his office and with state and local governments before launching some of the new airport security measures. For example, the action taken to remove the National Guard from airports and to order localities to replace them with local law enforcement personnel had not been given enough thought. Questions about liability, local priorities, and compensation needed to be considered before changes were ordered.

Camille Barnett expressed concern that federal agencies were not giving sufficient attention to the importance of regional approaches to homeland security.

Bernie Ross said that there may be a reason for the lack of understanding about the intergovernmental system. He noted that most schools don’t offer a course related to the intergovernmental system so many senior staff have little idea about how to implement programs effectively across different levels of government.

There was also considerable discussion about the desirability of NAPA obtaining funding to study various homeland security issues, including the proposed new federal department. One option mentioned would be an earmark in the Congressional appropriations process, which participants suggested NAPA staff might be able to pursue by reaching out to appropriate Fellows who could help contact committee staff on the Hill. Fellows wondered if this issue might connect in some way to the work of the NAPA Centers (e.g., Local and State Solutions).

 

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